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You only had women performers in your study.
你在研究時只選擇了女性作為研究物件，
Was that because male musicians are less worriedabout fashion?
這是因為男性音樂家對時尚關心較少嗎?
I think a lot of the men are very much influenced byfashion,
我覺得很多男性都深受時尚的影響，
but in social terms the choices they have are morelimited
但是從社會層面來看，他們在服裝方面的選擇更加有限，
they'd really upset audiences if they strayed away from quite narrow boundaries.
如果他們偏離了這本就狹窄的範圍，會煩擾觀眾的。
Hmm. Now, popular music has quite different expectations.
嗯，流行音樂對於服裝方面的要求相當不同。
Did you read Mike Frost's article about the dress of women performers in popular music?
你讀過Mike Frost關於流行女音樂家的穿著的文章嗎?
No.
沒有。
He points out that a lot of female singers and musicians in popular music tend to dress downin performances,
他指出很多流行音樂領域的女歌手和女音樂家往往在演出時穿得比較樸素，
and wear less feminine clothes, like jeans instead of skirts,
她們會穿不那麼女性化的服裝，比如相對於短裙，她們更願意穿牛仔褲，
and he suggests this is because otherwise they'd just be discounted as trivial.
他提出這是因為如果不這麼穿的話，她們就會被當成無足輕重的人物被忽視。
But you could argue they're just wearing what's practical...
但是我們也可以認為她們只是穿著比較實用的.衣服......
I mean, a pop-music concert is usually a pretty energetic affair.
我的意思是，開一場流行音樂演唱會通常都需要很多精力。
Yes, he doesn't make that point, but I think you're probably right.
是啊，雖然他沒有這麼說，但是我覺得你可能是對的。
I was interested by the effect of the audience at a musical performance when it came to thechoice of dress.
她們服裝方面的選擇在觀看音樂表演的觀眾中起到的效果令我很感興趣。
The subjects I interviewed felt this was really important.
我採訪的這些研究物件都覺得這一點非常重要。
It's all to do with what we understand by performance as a public event.
這和我們對演出作為一種公開活動的理解有關係。
They believed the audience had certain expectations
她們認為觀眾有某種期待，
and it was up to them as performers to fulfil these expectations to show a kind of esteem.
而這些期待需要她們作為表演者來滿足，以表現出一種對觀眾的尊重。
They weren't afraid of looking as if they'd made an effort to look good.
她們並不擔心自己看上去會像努力打扮過了一樣。
Mmm. I think in the past the audience would have had those expectations of one another too,
我認為在過去，觀眾之間也互相存在期待，
but that's not really the case now, not in the UK anyway.
不過現在不是這樣了，反正英國不是這樣。
No.
是的。
And I also got interested in what sports scientists are doing too, with regard to clothing.
另外，我對運動科學家在服裝方面的研究也產生了興趣。
Musicians are quite vulnerable physically, aren't they,
音樂家的身體相當脆弱，不是嗎?
because the movements they carry out are very intensive and repetitive,
因為他們做出的動作都很密集，而且時常重複，
so I'd imaging some features of sports clothing could safeguard the players from thepotentially dangerous effects of this sort of thing.
所以我猜運動類服裝具有的一些效能能夠保護演奏者在進行這種動作的時候不會受到潛在危險的影響。
Yes, but musicians don't really consider it.
是的，但是音樂家不太考慮這方面的問題。
They avoid clothing that obviously restricts their movements, but that's as far as they go.
她們只會避免穿著明顯限制她們動作的服裝，但是也就這樣了。
Anyway, coming back to your own research, do you have any idea where you're going fromhere?
不管怎樣，我們繼續回到你自己的研究上來，你有沒有想過這項研究接下來要怎麼進行?
I was thinking of doing a study using an audience, including...
我想的是用一名觀眾做一項研究，包括......
